18 Responses to “What will be the Koran-burning death toll?”

1. Justin Says:
   September 7th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

   Americans begin to wake up to the danger. Good for them.

2. Gary Says:
   September 8th, 2010 at 5:05 am

   Those who are of a mind to destroy America due to our beliefs will not need a reason to kill our citizens. Did you recall someone burning copies of the Koran on the day the cowarts flew the planes into the twin towers?

3. Bill Says:
   September 8th, 2010 at 8:03 am

   I hope the pastor wakes up and realizes how incredibly foolish it is to burn another religions book.

4. John Hamilton Says:
   September 8th, 2010 at 10:42 am

   This is sad. I sympathize with their anger, but purposely pissing off another religion, is stupid. What would Jesus do? Hmmm….

   Seek justice, not revenge people!

5. David Says:
   September 8th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

   What I don’t understand about this story is why the media picked it up in the first place. This was a non-story, the media reported on it and made it a world-wide issue. An ultra-conservative church of 15 people who decide to do this shouldn’t have made it out of the local community. This group is much like the church in Kansas that protests at the funerals of our fallen soldiers. They are not Christians, they are extremist hate-mongers. The media shares much of the blame for what happens as a result of this group of extremists.

6. Ralph Says:
   September 8th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

   Yes we should seek justice and not revenge, but how is it that a man doing what is in his rights to do will be blamed for what some radicals end up doing? how fragile is this peace that we are building

7. cheese Says:
   September 8th, 2010 at 3:00 pm

   Let the books burn. Free speech trumps your make-believe right not to be offended. If Islam truly is a religion of peace, the muslim response should demonstrate it.

8. Joe Purtle Says:
   September 8th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

   When those anti-Americans and traitors to our country burn out flag, it piss’s off lots of people, but the media and some in our society say….”Well. we don’t like it, but it’s their freedom of expression rights”. Well, lots of folks won’t like it because they burn the Koran, but….”it’s their rights to freedom of expression” taking place by burning the Koran. End of story as for as I’m concerned.

9. José Says:
   September 8th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

   Right on, cheese! No righteous Christian would dream of organizing an angry protest with the intent to suppress another religion’s First Amendment rights! Like, say, the freedom to build a house of worship in lower Manhattan?

10. Sweet and Sour (SS) Says:
    September 8th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    No one could burn teachings of God from hearts and minds of true believers, by burning few copies of Holy books. It is difficult to understand causes of such a hue and cry around the world for such a simple matter of demonstration, came out of only 50 people in a democratic country where freedom of expression is constitutional right so do freedom of religion. It is not only stupidity of Terry Jones who hurts sentiment of believers by burning their holy book thru exercising his legal rights, but also it is stupidity of those, who add fuel to spread the fire. The Bible or Koran could be reprinted and Almighty God/Allah would remain as mighty as any one’s religion believes before. Lets Allah/ God decide for punishments of those who desecrate Him and no one should take law at any one’s hand. Like no one is above the law, no human is above the God,creator of heaven and earth.

11. John Hamilton Says:
    September 9th, 2010 at 8:22 am

    I agree with you José. Believe it or not. I think Obama is getting a lot of unnecessary flack about his saying they have a right to build a mosque there. If they own the property and it is not against any local zoning ordinances, I say go for it. I think it’s stupid of them to do so—the place is likely to get fire-bombed every week—but they have the right. As long as they don’t sponsor violence or give reasonable cause for their neighbors to live in fear, of course.

    We Mormons run into this all the time building chapels and temples. We have to fight for our rights in many places. Massachusetts wouldn’t let us put a steeple on our temple in Boston until Ted Kennedy stepped in. That one act probably knocked off a few centuries of his purgatory sentence. I wonder what he got Orrin Hatch to vote for in exchange… Anyway, if we live in a free society, we got to act like it. That includes putting up with some things we don’t agree with or even disgust us—to a point. If these sick people in Gainsville want to burn books, let them, but let them deal with the consequences of it as well. It is sad, because the Koran is really a beautiful book. I have a gold-leafed copy with English translation and commentary. It’s not as lively reading as the Bible or Book of Mormon, but it has some great insights in it. Unlike the Muslims, I don’t think it is perfect, but certainly does not deserve burning simply because some sickos use it to justify their desire to kill and destroy. We all have some skeletons in our ancestral closet in that regard.

12. Marty Says:
    September 9th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    I remember the Mormans killed a bunch of innocent kids and families in Mountain Meadows. I’m from Harrison, AR where entire families were wiped out. Thankfully, you have reformed your religion. The Islamic Muslims will not. You’re part of the problem that we have knelt before these people since 9/11 “hoping” they would not do anything else. We have spent $billion$ on these people trying to protect ourselves from goat lovers and riders. gimme a break………burn baby burn!

13. Cliff Jackson Says:
    September 9th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    Initially, the death toll will most likely be limited, a lot of protests and rallies in Muslim countries, some accompanied by violence/destruction of property. In the second phase, protests will proliferate in number (as militants fan the flames) and become more incendiary, and killings will begin: Christians and Westerners in these countries, other “soft” targets, American military (and bases), American/Western companies abroad, perhaps even the Florida church, its pastor, and some of its members. Killings in the third phase will be incalculable but huge, those killed by the Al Qaeda and Taliban and Hamas new recruits, the radicalized moderates and idealistic young converted into the new “Crusades” against the Infidels by virtue of this one un-Christian Christian book-burning.

14. Don Says:
    September 9th, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    I will be looking at the so called peaceful Muslims to see if they join in with militants. If the marjority Muslims are really peaceful, then we will know how many are really militants and they want to destroy us. IMO

15. José Says:
    September 9th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Like David says, it’s a shame that such a small group can get so much attention and, in doing so, put a blemish on the entire Christian religion. In a similar vein I am mindful that this congregation (along with many other Americans) is blaming all of Islam for the acts of 20 or so fanatics.

16. Justin Says:
    September 9th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    The Koran is hate speech, made holy by a madman. It openly advocates violence to anyone who resists submission to its laws. The man who invented it lived a violently aggressive life, and the entire history of those who follow it has been marked by violent aggression because they follow his mad advice.

    If you have not personally read the Koran, you need to shut up and stop pontificating about it. READ IT. It is right there in plain sight. The terrorists are not making it up, they are doing exactly what is says to do. I have written about this extensively. See for example:

    http://religionnewsblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/geert-wilders-banned-movie-violent.html

17. John Hamilton Says:
    September 10th, 2010 at 10:51 am

    Hey, Justin. I’ve read some of the passages you quote in the Koran, and if taken literally—I mean really, really literally—then yes they are bad. However, the Holy Bible has some equally horrifying content. Much of the Koran language was meant metaphorically, in my opinion and in the opinion of most scholars, similar to our saying, “Put on the armor of God,” and “Wield the sword of truth.” We don’t mean literally wielding a sword, unless it is to save us from real evil. The Book of Mormon gives ample examples of when and when not to fight for truth. The gist of it is that you only fight literally when evil is going to win the day if you don’t—say Hitler, or something. That, if taken in context with all of the rest that Mohammed said, is what the Koran is talking about.

    Just like the Bible can be used to justify exterminating Jews, or Mormons, or people with freckles, or whatever, the Koran will be used to justify almost anything. Gays were executed in Afghanistan. Not all that long ago they were executed by the “Christian” Inquisition.

    The Koran isn’t perfect, and neither is the Bible. They are just tools. A hammer can build a house or bludgeon someone to death. If you want to ban the Koran, then ban the Bible too. In fact, why don’t we get everything approved by the Standing Committee of Justin before it ever goes to press?

    The copy of the Koran I own includes commentary that explains all the passages. As I remember, it is very non-violent and conciliatory to all religions. The scholars who wrote it are only slightly less tolerant of pure evil than we Christians. Maybe not a bad thing if we think about it.

18. Julian Malakar Says:
    September 12th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Death toll of cancelled plan of Koran burning as of to-date reached to two people in Afghanistan. For this tragic result, to my opinion is failure of Muslim leaders, communicating true meaning of Koran to their grass root followers as John found in his copy of Koran as non-violent and conciliatory to all religions. Tragic incidents express that Muslim leaders did not take any practical initiative from their part to cool down grass root followers by spreading peace message of Koran as did major Christian leaders including Pope to condemn action of Rev. Jones as a Christian.

    Imam Rauf and other Muslim leaders are busy convincing American people that Islam is religion of peace and tolerance but it is sad that they could not stop violent protest resulting two innocent death. Unless practical step taken to educate grass root believers, justification for allowing reconciliatory Islamic center at the nose end of ground zero for cooling down radical Islamism around the world for safeguard of national interest would be nothing but submission to will of radical Muslim. Terrorizing Muslims and non-Muslims actually hurts Islam as peaceful religion. For best interest of Islam and world peace, number one priority should be educating common Muslim real peace message of Koran so that radical group could not get opportunity hijacking the religion. Money will be well spent in educating real peace loving teaching of Koran and Bible rather than building Mosque or Churches.

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